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Climate Change thread for all climate change discussions

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  • #1741197
    Hero42
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    Rob023
    I wasn’t belittling you and I am sorry you are so sensitive that you took it that way.

    You stated you were a mere mortal and from the gist of your post you seemed to be claiming not to understand many things.

    I was merely pointing out that fortunately there are many people who while being mere mortals do understand these things and that you should listen to them.

    I am glad to hear you understand the internal workings of computers and electronics.

    Perhaps you should apply some study to the various scientific articles available online so that you will understand climate and climate change and not make the incorrect statements that you currently do based on an apparent ignorance of the scientific facts.

    As to the philosophical points you raised I would be happy to discuss them but on a thread specifically for that rather than distracting from the serious issue this thread is about.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1741199
    Hero42
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    Hero42

    Renewable electricity overtakes fossil fuels in UK.

    Fossil fuels made up 80% of the country’s electricity fewer than 10 years ago, split between gas and coal, but the latest analysis by Carbon Brief shows that coal-fired power was less than 1% of all electricity generated.

    Wind power is the UK’s strongest source of renewable energy and made up 20% of the UK’s electricity following a series of major windfarm openings in recent years. Electricity from solar panels contributed 6%.

    There is a solution we just have to have the courage to pursue it rather than listen to the power companies lies they tell to try and keep their profits up.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1741207
    halcyon
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    halcyon

    Somehow the math do not stack up Hero. Lets accept that “Wind power is the UK’s strongest source of renewable energy and made up 20%”.  Add to that the ” from solar panels contributed 6%“. So far we have a total of 26%.

    That leaves gas fired generation and nuclear power generation to make up the outstanding balance of 73%. Even if we allow 20% generation from nuclear (as claimed Wikipedia claims was the production  in 2017), it would appear that   petrochemical generation is still provides the majority of their electricity.

    Still, good on the UK for developing some renewable source generation.

    “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” (George Orwell, The Animal Farm)

    #1741225
    rob023
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    rob023

    supergold, That story published by The Sun newspaper on the heatwave Australia had back in January 1939 is intriguing in that despite all those high temperatures there’s no mention of the buzzwords Climate Change on the page.
    Just multiple articles from reporters in different parts of the country reporting events resulting from everyday quite common summer weather with the odd upwards blip not unusual in Australia.

    Of course it’s always saddening that some people die from hot conditions.
    Some elderly suffer strokes from heat exhaustion at a mere 28c .
    Then again some people cope and manage higher temperatures better than others.
    Personally 23-25 is quite enough for me.
    I recall arriving in Brisbane one morning when the temperature was 22. I opened my case and changed into shorts, teeshirt and jandals. Most of the locals were bundled up in jerseys, longs and socks and complaining of the cold.

    #1741226
    paulinem
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    paulinem

    A must listen, Prince Charles is showing he will makea very good King and a Head of State for NZ. As he correctly says we MUST take action against climate change we owe it to our future descendants. I am coming out and saying this for the sake of my grandchildren and yours future in this planet.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/403916/prince-charles-says-state-of-global-environment-at-a-tipping-point

    #1741239
    rob023
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    rob023

    hero42 re your post #1741197

    In your post #1740832 the way I read it, you insulted and belittled me.
    All you have to say on the matter is “Rob023, I’m sorry that you saw that I insulted and belittled you.”
    Bringing sensitivity into it and how you understood your statements is making excuses.
    Man up.
    Then move on.

    If you feel your have a good understanding of how climate works then explaining this with precise details might be simple for you:
    Why, where I was at 8.30am two days ago the weather conditions were cloudy and breezy, and then why, at the same spot and time yesterday the conditions were no clouds, no breeze and it was three degrees centigrade cooler than two days ago.
    However, if you feel this request is asking too much of you, then please be so kind to point me to one or two scientific articles that give the precise answers.

    Regarding the other issues I sought answers to, I’m not interested in philosophical thoughts. I need facts.

    And as you’ve shown you’re not keen on statements that include the word ‘could’, then I expect your answers and articles will exclude all statements that include ‘could’ or ‘may’ or ‘might’ or other similarly vague verbs.

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    It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.

    #1741241
    Hero42
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    Hero42

    Rob023
    It is always a problem in written communications that it is hard to convey the same detail that face to face conversations can.

    What I said and meant and what you interpreted from that are clearly two different things and as I said in my subsequent post I am sorry for that I believe I have man-ed up and moved on.

    Perhaps you should too.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1741242
    Hero42
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    Rob023
    Now I could be sensitive and consider your subsequent point on the weather you experienced was belittling me or perhaps it was just sarcasm but I will choose to ignore it as I cannot tell exactly what you meant by your choice of words.

    As far as the question goes I have answered it on numerous occasions before but what you are describing is weather not climate.

    The difference between weather and climate is a measure of time. Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere “behaves” over relatively long periods of time.

    Now if you could be more specific about where exactly you where and the dates I can check the weather maps and give you a detailed explanation as to why the weather changed the way it did.

    Cheers 🙂

    #1741243
    Hero42
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    Hero42

    Rob023
    I am glad you have taken up the challenge and want to learn more about the science of climatology.

    I have already given you a great starting point in another thread but I will repeat it here to make it easy for you.

    https://skepticalscience.com/

    Cheers 🙂

    #1741244
    Hero42
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    Rob023
    I am not sure if this is a new Rob023 rule that we should all jump up and answer your every question when you make it although you do seem to be saying that on several threads when no one responds to your posts.

    But as I have said in the past we are all free to respond to whatever posts we want to which is why I haven’t asked you why you haven’t responded to the many questions I have asked of you recently.

    Cheers 🙂

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