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  • #329225
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    Fabulosity
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    If you are approached by anyone about Melaleuca (the supposed Wellness Company) make sure you become well-informed about them. Listen to the person presenting the information to you BUT also check out a couple of interesting sites for a BALANCED perspective. http://www.nabcorp.com.au and http://www.melanewscenter.com Enjoy!

    #329227
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    Ashmannz
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    So whats wrong with Melaleuca? and why are the two links you posted not working?
    Interested..
    Ashmannz

    #329229
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    DavidBatchelor
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    A couple of very valid points Ashmannz that I noticed Fabulosity couldn’t answer 😀

    I spoke to a man last night who said he didn’t want to join my business because it cost money. I gave him an answer as to why every business cost money, and I came to the understanding that anything that cost money in this man’s world was a scam. Even if I was able to sign this guy up (though why would I), he wouldn’t last more then a month or so. He probably gets buyers remorse at 7/11. You see folks, in order to fail you have to go out there and give it your best shot. And then if you fail, the only reason is probably that you didn’t follow direction from your enroller, re-invented the wheel, or simply just didn’t work.

    Anyone who tells you that this business is easy, is a liar. It’s a very simple business, but like anything worthwhile in life, it’s not easy. This business takes work like any other business and you have to constantly be working on improving yourself and becoming a leader to attract people to you. I personally won’t even bother to partner with someone in my business who cannot invest at least 7 – 13 hours a week. If they don’t invest that much time, they have no chance of making it and might as well not even join the party.

    So if you want to become a Melaleuca Superstar understand that most people don’t fail in Melaleuca, they just quit. And also understand that a Melaleuca business is no different than trying to become a professional singer, athlete, lawyer, or small business owner. It takes work, knowledge, and performance. I bet you that those of us who have or are making it in Melaleuca are generally those that just never quit.

    ~ David

    http://www.HereIsMyDay.co.nz

    #329231
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    Mentor4u,
    Your “business” is American based is it not? Just like the other poster on here, Moviated who is pushing unlockfinancialfreedom.com on all the threads she can.
    CB

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    DavidBatchelor
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    Hi CB,

    I am not sure what you mean by American based? If you mean like McDonlds where there is local franchises, but the founder and head operation is in the USA, then yes.

    I don’t know about Moviated. However I am right on topic with what I have posted. 😉

    Warmly,
    ~ David

    http://www.FireYourBoss.visit.ws

    #329235
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    hi all.
    I have just had a meeting with someone from melaleuca. So i am now doing my own research, as i have some questions that codnt be answered.(even the website codnt answer!)Maybe someone on here can help.
    I was told that the products are manafactured in USA and Oz but i would like to know which countrys the ingredients come from?
    Also what ingredients the products contain?
    Melaleuca is the botanical name for tea-tree but they dont seem to stock tea-tree oil or tea-tree products?
    Lastly, i understand paying a membership fee if you are going to be a seller, but dont understand the membership fee for the consumers?

    #329237
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    oldkiwikid
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    Just another con job.

    #329239
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    skynz71
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    Yes, It sounds like it is.

    #329241
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    Never ceases to amaze me the tire kickers who think anything except a stinkin’ job is a scam! Melaleuca is the 5th company I’ve worked with in the last 20 years and is a fine 25 yr old enterprise. But like anything in life there are people telling half the story. Go into it like you would any real business, do lots of research. go to the USA like I did and check it out, THEN come back here and talk. Don’t go off half cocked! 8)

    #329243
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    In that case EcoWiz explain to us what clauses 19 and 22 mean in the policy manuel as most people aren’t aware what they actually are?

    There was a time once when I was a strong supporter of Melaleuca just like you currently are and yes I have been to their headquarters in Idaho Fells.

    David Batchelor

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    EcoWiz
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    Hi David, It’s been a while since you and I spoke. How’s it all going? Are you going to Coolangatta in September? 🙂

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    DavidBatchelor
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    Things are going really great, thanks for asking though.

    I am not sure if Melaleuca will have much of a turn out the way it treats it’s marketing executives, I might just make it though.

    I know they were disappointed with the turn out last year and am not sure how many they will get this year.

    #329249
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    Gigglebyte
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    Approach with caution until you know what you are looking at.Remember too, that some companies play on people’s greed.As the ‘Fair Go’ people advise’If it looks too good to be true, then it probably is.’

    #329251
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    hey there, if you want some info on melaleuca, you only need to ring the head office in aussie or nz – a freecall number 1800073399 0r 0800083399 and ask away – there are product consultants available.

    the tea tree oil is sourced from a plantation in NSW – and is independently tested and verified as to its active content.

    they also use palm oil – sourced from sustainable plantations in malaysia that are old family businesses and are not affected by deforestation.

    again, you only need to ask for this info.

    also, straight tea tree in two strengths is available, depending on what you are wanting to use it for – these both have their active content listed on the bottles.

    #329253
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    How do you know that it couldn’t be affected by deforestation?

    #329255
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    . . . rather than take my word for it, why not call David McManus (managing director) on the aussie number and ask him about his recent visit to Malaysia and the orangutang sanctuary? he is very open to discussion, and will tell you anything you would like to know.

    #329257
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    I became a Melaleuca customer for health reasons. Sorted out eczema and fatigue, and psoriasis in my family, and also got one family member off blood pressure meds and cholesterol meds. Two came off antidepressant medication (long term users, off these for over two years now) and I now sleep the whole night through, something I have struggled with all of my adult life.

    I cannot put a monetary value on those things. Our health is worth something beyond money. To see a loved one decrease their risk of dying prematurely, or to be measurably happier and more well – priceless. However, the COST of the products responsible for those health gains, is considerably less than the store-bought equivalents – so we are also saving money. Plus, because we have told others about the products, and they have tried them and liked them, we now earn a small but well received income . . . to have better health, and a likely longer life – worth millions.

    However, because people are discussing money, I would like to just add a thought re passive income: if a regular customer of Melaleuca enrols 8 customers that also become regular (monthly) customers, they are guaranteed $150 per month (minimum). If they enrol one other customer per each month, the amount jumps to $180. To earn that in interest, you would need to have approx $40 – 60,000 in the bank. That is an excellent gain , and pretty much passive income.

    If you help other people to do the same, and continue to support them, you are also entitled to extra commissions – and can earn large amounts. While the income is residual, and leverage is used to achieve this, all of the big earners at melaleuca actively build their businesses – and actively support people in their own organisation to do the same. They give of their time and energy, and often without expecting or asking for payback.

    The business is designed so that in order to build a business, you MUST help others do the same. Frank Vandersluit (founder) did not want it to be a business where someone sat back while other people earned for them, but instead for people to earn their own income at the level they wanted to. You can’t grow rich with Melaleuca without working it yourself.

    This is a huge contrast to our normal consumer habits where we buy products from supermarkets etc whose value is hugely inflated, because the manufacturers, advertisers, wholesalers, retailers and shareholders all need their cut. We are consumers – we buy the end product and pay into the pockets of all of those people. With Melaleuca, we buy from the manufacturer, a portion of our money goes to other customers, but we have a chance to earn commission ourselves – something impossible in the normal business model.

    We do not pay for our own health and beauty and homecare products, because our commissions cover these – our stress levels are reduced because this is one less household expense to worry about, and we feel better about ourselves because we are acting in a more environmentally friendly manner. Again, it is hard to put a monetary value on all of these things – we simply FEEL better all round. And if our feelings change, we simply stop being Melaleuca customers, and look for something different – no strings no worries.

    #329259
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    As a past Melaleuca advocate (director level) I found this thread interesting and as usual not everyone is telling the full story.
    I have just resigned from the organization after my second attempt at making a success of it.
    Firstly Melaleuca has some great products. Secondly it is a very good business plan but……………….and there are plenty of them.
    It is really hard work to make a decent living – my definition of decent living is $10,000 per month. And you have to keep working. If you stop that income will continue for a while but will gradually dimiinish.
    I have a major problem with the monthly requirement of buying 35 product points (preferred customer) or 55 product points (director level and above) simply because in order to continue earning your commissions you have to buy product. So I landed up buying and trying products just to earn my commission.
    The $150.00 that you get per month does (usually) cover your product costs but only just. So the earlier post stating that you would need $40K -$60K invested in the bank to earn this amount is not totally true. for it to be true you would need to earn a commission of $300.00 per month.
    The weekly/monthly meetings and lunches are not free and are a time and financial commitment.
    At these meetings the emphasis is on the business side of Melaleuca and not the wellness side.
    I failed on the business side and after trying twice – once for a year and once for 6 months I failed to find any improvement in my health. I suffer from psoriatic arthritis.
    And finally – no matter what anyone tells you the products are NOT CHEAP. Melaleuca claims that because they cut out the retailer the products are cheaper. Not so in my experience.
    It is a great company and you can make a lot of money but you will have to be prepared to take a lot of knocks and work real hard.
    I have since found a much better (easier and more fun) way to make a living where I earn residual income without having to buy product. No down lines and no meetings.

    #329261
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    Hi Ruth,

    It appears you are saying two different things. In one paragraph you are talking about passive income and in the next you are saying Frank doesn’t want that.

    Of course he doesn’t, he wants you to have to be always promoting his products and company so that he doesn’t have to and fly fist class around the world.

    If you are looking for a genuine passive income that keeps coming in long after you have done the work, simply skype me on davidbatchelor_nz

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    Actually I would have to disagree with you Bald Eagle on the second point. Been a director, you most likely don’t quite understand the finer points of the compensation plan (business) and this is coming from a senior director.

    Though one needs to be careful as there is so much b.s on the net these days.

    Having said that, the company I am with has at last count nine of us seniors and above involved. Which is HUGE when you consider how few of the marketing executives reach those levels?

    ~ David

    Skype: davidbatchelor_nz

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