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AFFORDABLE Housing Crisis.

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  • #1667804
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    drlivingstone

    To digress back to AFFORDABLE Housing Crisis. So  after the gutting of State Housing as Nationals  flagship policy we have 6182 households in need of a state House in the December 2017 quarter. What hypocrisy for Bill English and his Government and now Opposition Party saying in their Spin “There is no housing crisis:

    Dr.Livingstone
    Peoples Republic Of Christchurch

    #1667813
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    halcyon

    Is there a nationwide housing crisis Doc. Or is it a local housing crisis caused by large numbers of people wanting to live in the same locations.

    As I travel around the country I see numerous empty houses. I see houses for sale at under $200,000. I see adverts for rental properties listed at under $200 per week. However, those houses are not in the Auckland City area. Nor are they close to popular beaches.

    Not long ago I read an article about a woman complaining that there were no affordable houses for rent on Waiheke Island. She was on limited income and her only reason for wanting to live on Waiheke was “it was a beautiful place to live”.

    The other thing that is becoming apparent is the number of retired people who are selling up in the large cities like Auckland and moving to smaller centers. There was an article in the news lately about the experiences of people who made the move to Waitara.

    Unless people all want to live in the same location there will not be any “affordable” housing.

     

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    #1667818
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    gabyone

    Halcyon : It is difficult for many people  (especially elderly folk) to move away from their support systems. While in theory moving to cheaper areas sounds good, often it can be , for elderly very isolated or lacking in services. Also remember many people without jobs are penalised by WINZ  for moving to any area where there is a shortage of jobs. Sadly many cheaper housing areas have high unemployment already. Also to leave behind the family who  may mind children when they are sick,  or on school  holidays is a huge deterrent for low income working families.

    Many older folk in the cheaper suburbs of Auckland only have their freehold home and exist on Super alone & to downsize to a retirement village often costs more than what they would get selling that home.

    Gabyone Auckland region

    #1667824
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    lilith7

    The point is,that more housing is needed, & things being as they are its now very difficult for those on low incomes to buy a house – therefore more rental housing is required.

    It might not be a bad idea to look at how other countries manage this,what works,what doesn’t & use whats likely to work here. There are different kinds of housing such as tiny houses, & while they won’t suit everyone they could work well for others.

    Its not an especially good idea to uproot people if it can be avoided;not only does that mean upheaval for kids having to start new schools,it removes that family from any support network e.g.family & friends which they may have. If we can manage to keep people in roughly the same neighbourhoods then so much the better – unless they’re keen to move to be closer to family etc. And I remember reading that for elderly people,uprooting them from familiar surroundings often leads to isolation & even earlier death in some cases – can’t for the life of me remember where I came across it though.

    Perhaps it just isn’t a ‘one size fits all’ situation & various ways may be needed. Whatever the solution is,I hope that once its in place it will be then ring fenced so that future politicians are unable to change it. Recent history has proven they can’t be trusted with state housing,therefore it must be kept out of reach of meddling politicians.

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    halcyon

    gabyone, you make some good points. And I agree that a “one size fits all” model is not the answer.

    However, I have lived in small towns or rural areas most of my life. Between what I read in local papers, and people I have spoken to, and even my own experience, smaller communities are very quick in surrounding new arrivals with support. Not having lived in Auckland for many years I can not make a current  comparison. But going by memory I would suggest one moving to a rural town would have equal supports in a very short time.

    And yes, I agree the cost of transferring to retirement villages can be a barrier for many. I know the cost involved when my late in-laws moved into a village in Orewa. Fortunately they were affluent enough to afford it. By comparison, cottages in our local retirement village cost under $200,000. Many of those purchasing them have sold up in  Auckland and are enjoying  a less expensive lifestyle.  Their corporate fees are less that their Auckland council rates.

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    #1667869
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    drlivingstone

    We recognise not everyone is as fortunate as we are @ living in a retirement village We love the lifestyle community spirit security  and services and   have apartments no dearer than $205,000 currently and a waiting list of  more than 15 for them. We live in a Not For Profit complex run by Anglican Living who is interdenominational including atheists and agnostics. We would like to see more Affordable Community Retirement Villages.

    Dr.Livingstone
    Peoples Republic Of Christchurch

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    joybel

    Affordable housing is a myth. Little else is affordable, especially the necessities  of life . The cheapest happening I can think of is getting pregnant and this is happenng regardless of affordablity  or whether the mother has a roof over her head or a job. The males are fancy free and spreading their genes wherever they can. Common sense has flown the coop it seems and finding a partner just for the urge is the way to go in todays liberated society.

    Self control went out of the window many years ago when self indulgence became the liberation from all things decent and society is not going anywhere except in self interest and greed. So many children without a father to normalise  family life and the older women cruising the pubs looking for a  partner after marriage breaks down is the norm. Society is what, I ask, or what is it supposed to do for young children whose parents or one of them have decided to split because of boredom or attraction to another. How low does society have to go and children be the victims? Housing has shot itself in the foot and there is no surgery or cash to meet the demands of these homeless underpaid and in many cases irresponsible people.

     

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    #1667905
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    mommabear70

    Well spoken joybel !

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    lilith7

    And good luck with that Joybel – trying to put an end to one of our strongest biological urges should prove interesting,to say the least. 🙄

    #1669716
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    drlivingstone

    So The New Leader of the Opposition Simon Bridges says there is a housing crisis”for those affected by it”on Morning Report this morning.A bit of a change from past policy of Bill English & National in Government of which he Simon  was a minister.

    Dr.Livingstone
    Peoples Republic Of Christchurch

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