- #1647220joybel October 18, 2017 at 2:21 pm
Have come up for air after being crook for a few days. Not really fussed over the elections result, when it is finally revealed though. No surprises expected nor early gifts as to read between all the lines here we are headed down the drain.
I was reading of the poor lady who has been forced from her State home of many decades in Taniwha street. I know this area well as it is where my inlaws lived back in the historic times when the area was a Statehouse marvel. The Gov. is moving on over 20,000 old homes built on large sections and replacing them with twice as many State homes or units.
I always liked Glen Innes as the area had views from advantaged places. This all sounds good to me. The old quarter acre paradise has had its day and at least the underground work can be upgraded. Good exercise can be gained on those lovely streets. Hope it happens. Hope also that the lady being moved will be welcomed in her new environment.#1647255Hero42MemberMember since: July 18, 2008
Replies: 11301Hero42 October 18, 2017 at 4:36 pm
Good to hear you are feeling better.
Hopefully they will replace the old state homes with new state homes but I suspect it will be a few token state homes and a lot of private homes for sale at prices most people can’t afford.
Cheers 🙂#1647312joybel October 18, 2017 at 7:34 pm
Even so it is better emotionally to mix State homes with private as it means snobbery could be dunked. It works well and even Sir John who was reared in a State house was able to mix with those from more affluent suburbs as Burnside High school was the local for our area. Surprising to hear State house dwellers coming over all fussy over which of their neighbours are good enough to hob nob with. But they do. Snobbery knows no class.#1647321halcyonMemberMember since: May 4, 2014
Replies: 4565halcyon October 18, 2017 at 8:13 pm
Is it snobbery Joybel? Or is it wanting a comfortable life? We were very selective when we were house looking. And it wasn’t because we were snobs. But after living in a neighbourhood where sleep was impossible on a Friday night due to people across the road holding parties, we just wanted quiet.
Another place we lived in we would be woken up most every Thursday nights by the crashing and banging from two houses away. It was pay night and regularly he would come home after the pub closed drunk , and throw things around. We could see the red and blue lights reflecting through the windows.
So I do have sympathy with those in State Houses who are concerned about who lives in their area. The only way mixed neighbourhoods work is if the landlords manage their tenants and ensure they respect their neighbours.
And before the Social Justice Warriors get upset, some of the best neighbours I have had were gang members. It is not the social status of the neighbour but the attitude and behaviour that is the concern.
There are 10 types of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't#1647333arandarMemberMember since: November 23, 2009
Replies: 10503arandar October 18, 2017 at 9:48 pm
I hope you’re on the mend Joybel.
I doubt Hero was thinking of snobbery and nimbyism but rather selling off or otherwise disposing of hundreds of state houses.
There’s a lack of housing and there’s a lack of affordable housing.
It’s all very well, declaring them no longer fit for purpose, promising to replace them, but what the govt has been doing instead is building a handful of state houses and allowing developers to build hundreds more MacMansions for the wealthy, or the investor class.
🌊Arandar🏄🏽♀️#1647358joybel October 19, 2017 at 7:25 am
This area of Glen Innes was set up with mainly prefabs. To hastily provide homes post war and were said to be temporary. However more substantial brick homes and modern styles soon branched out. I remember my sister in laws brick house with her fabulous gardening fanatical husband whose veges would deserve prizes. Street after street of state houses as far as the eye could see, each fenced with low hurricane wire fences So the inspectors could stand at one end and see the streets length of backyards and let the tenants know when tidying the section was overdue. The word temporary, however,was lost somewhere but at least people were housed. Glen Innes shopping centre really flourished in that period.
The need was met back then but of course Land values have escalated. Whatever the future holds I always see those State houses as the saving grace for the hundreds of post war Immigrants and Kiwis who made Auckland their home and worked and reared thousands of children. The hills always wore me out coming from Christchurch and walking downhill took some balancing, but I enjoyed it.#1647503lilith7MemberMember since: April 9, 2017
Replies: 1622lilith7 October 19, 2017 at 2:56 pm
Joybel,good to hear you’re on the mend again.
“And before the Social Justice Warriors get upset, some of the best neighbours I have had were gang members. It is not the social status of the neighbour but the attitude and behaviour that is the concern.”
Interesting comment Halycon. – it reminded me – years ago we lived next to a house which was empty & had been for a while. According to the woman who lived in a place behind it,it had been a gang house.
And she wouldn’t hear a word said against them because while her husband had been in hospital for a few days she’d been outside chopping wood when a gang member looked over the fence,saw her struggling,jumped over with one or two others & proceeded to chop all her wood for her.
“Hopefully they will replace the old state homes with new state homes but I suspect it will be a few token state homes and a lot of private homes for sale at prices most people can’t afford..”
That does seem to be what’s happened so far Hero.#1647689joybel October 20, 2017 at 2:55 pm
Can we look forward now to all Kiwis having access to a State house at subsidised rent no matter what ones financial mores are. From cradle to the grave we will not have a penny more nor a penny less. Who needs taxes anyway on the gravy train to nowhere. There is nothing but debts to be repaid as I read it yet miracles are about to happen. Once again the onus will be on business and endless increased taxes just to hand out basics to perform daily needs to those who needs are great.#1647743drlivingstoneMemberMember since: October 22, 2006
Replies: 34938drlivingstone October 20, 2017 at 9:32 pm
One of the first instructions will be to Housing New Zealand to stop state house sell-off. and beginn work to establish an Affordable Housing Authority and begin the Kiwibuild programme.
Peoples Republic Of Christchurch#1647777lilith7MemberMember since: April 9, 2017
Replies: 1622lilith7 October 21, 2017 at 10:45 am
Again,I’m now inclined to think that we should just bite the bullet & have high taxes,sufficient to cover housing,health,education,welfare etc.etc. because although that means we’d have less to spend,it also means that there would be less to pay out of our personal spending money, & that everyone would then be able to access medical care when needed, or gain a decent education without saddling themselves with a crippling debt.
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