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3302-Barbara_in_Golden 21 Jul 2006 8:29am #1
offline da kiwi

Member since 29 Jun 2006

Member from Waikanae

Posts: 30

I now get the Super, but I still wish to work. I only work 18 hours a week, 3 days per week. Work days I wake up raring to go, I just can't wait to get there. My workmates are awesome, some of the customers are the pits lol. But working gives me such satisfaction. As I live on my own, without work I would be bored stiff. Maybe even become a recluse..ha ha, and that would never do.

252 27 Jul 2006 8:46pm #2
offline Jens

Member since 03 May 2006

Member from Point Chevalier

Posts: 3894

Well, da kiwi, isn't it wonderful! You can work as you please, without getting penalised or "surcharged" for it, for your own and the country's benefit.
But think of those who for various reasons cannot work - as indeed it can happen to all of us eventually - wouldn't then our retirement (and the country's general) welfare be best protected by a higher rate of more widespread wealth ownership preferably BY ALL?
And our NZ Super Fund personal accounts would certainly release taxation revenue for spending in other areas. Of course , all this would not apply to us current superannuitants anymore, but for the country to go ahead, shouldn't we support NZ Super Fund Personal Accounts, leading to the "Ownership Society", with more job and welfare potential FOR All? - Jens.

3782 16 Aug 2006 9:17pm #3
offline piersdad

Member since 30 Jun 2006

Member from Woolston

Posts: 170

Well i was made redundant at 55 and just used my redundancy money to set up a home workshop and taught my self to make violins and cellos.
wife was still working so income was ok.
wife took ill with a stroke so now we are on sickness benifit.
my main hobby all my life was inventing and after souping up the wifes mobility scooter made another one for my self.
so now we have boy /girl races to the local supermarket.

recently our son returned from aussie and with a quick renovation of a sleepout we are for the time being in it, and being fed and loved by son DI law and 3 grand children.

shortly our large section will be subdivided and a proper granny flat and a 3 br unit added to the section so the place will become a sort of family place where each generation moves in and the and the oldies shift down one.

I am 68 now and still spend most of the day in my workshop making things. and from time to time enjoying the grand children.

with foster children and extended family we have about 16 grand children so as all the family are on great terms with every one we are one very happy family
so with lots of hard work and love we have got ourselves in a really nice retirement situation.
Not wealthy money wise but fabulously rich in love from th efamily

252 24 Sep 2006 2:25pm #4
offline Jens

Member since 03 May 2006

Member from Point Chevalier

Posts: 3894

Yes, piersdad, you are a living example of a wealth owning citizen, well able to testify on the benefits of it, as indeed the majority of us Kiwis are. But can't you (we) see the poverty, misery AND POTENTIAL THREAT to your/ our own (or your/our children's) welfare security from a potentially widening class of have-nots, with a priority of ever widening benefits at your (our)expense, if socio-economical turmoil is to be prevented? And isn't the noblest form of charity not just feeding the poor, but helping them to overcome their poverty through their own productivity? Yeah, you can call it self-interest, but it is certainly more enlightened than encouraging dependence on donations(?). Don't be shy with your opinions on that, we are all a pretty mature bunch. - Jens.

4688-015___Copy 30 Sep 2006 4:12pm #5
offline pearly

Member since 30 Jul 2006

Member from Omokoroa

Posts: 2528

i cant wait till im 65 then i get to go on the pension.that will be cool.as it is now when my husband and i got made redundent there was no redundacy payments to us ,our jobs went off shore.have to budget all the way now real carefull and hassled about work thats not in our line,but prepared to give it a go ,but the bosses out there cant be bothered to give u a go.
so we trying to make the most of what we have got,and get involved in the woodwork shed and craft area,keeps the mind ticking over good

252 01 Oct 2006 7:51pm #6
offline Jens

Member since 03 May 2006

Member from Point Chevalier

Posts: 3894

Yes, pearly, I think we all understand the disappointments of those losing their long time jobs in later middle age, which even the reportedly low unemployment rate does not seem to overcome without some feeling of grief.
At least, in your case your universal super entitlement seems to be a welcome relief to look forward to.
But are you aware, that with our increasing proportion of longer living superannuitants, our present entitlement rate at age 65 will be endangered for those in their 40s now, without substantial NZ Super Fund assistance?
As many of us (without extra personal wealth) consider our universal super as barely adequate, I hope you will be among those who, while naturally supporting efforts to increase the universal super rate, would also strongly support an increase in the NZ Super Fund accumulation rate which, with more of it invested in NZ, would also very effectively increase our economic growth rate, resulting in improved prosperity and security for all. - Jens.

Blank 14 Oct 2006 10:51pm #7
offline jaebird

Member since 29 Jul 2006

Member from Halswell

Posts: 5

I too was made redundant at the age of 63 with 13 months to retirement. As my husband was over 65 I was able to receive a pension as a non qualifying spouse (how I hate that word) and his pension became income tested.I have a part time job but we are still struggling as we have always had low paying jobs. Hopefully when I turn 65 (at the end of this month) things will improve.

4688-015___Copy 15 Oct 2006 10:45am #8
offline pearly

Member since 30 Jul 2006

Member from Omokoroa

Posts: 2528

yes Jens ,i understand it is going to be even harder for those that are younger now, at their retirement age ,and saving is important.we may even have it that retirement will be 70 .then what. i am not knocking the nz superfund ,i just have a problem with compulsary saving when one is on a low wage.
hi Jaebird,understand completely,so you know just how i would be feeling.we have payed taxes all of our working life and it would be nice to have some respect from some departments that we have to deal with .

252 29 Oct 2006 4:32pm #9
offline Jens

Member since 03 May 2006

Member from Point Chevalier

Posts: 3894

Ah, pearly, I take the opportunity herewith to remind you again, that through our NZ Super Fund ALL OF US - including those without taxable incomes and you personally - are participating in compulsory saving NOW - and it is for the good of our country now, and increasingly in the future - AND WE ARE ALL CONSTRUCTIVEL Y COOPERATING ON THIS!
Doesn't knowing that make your heart feel warm? - Jens.

3016-Row_at_Fox_River 07 Nov 2006 10:10am #10
offline rosie

Member since 28 Jun 2006

Member from Runanga

Posts: 858

Hi Inside out, some people I know have tried deer velvet for arthritic pain and it has worked well, though might not be for everyone. Somtimes anything is worth a go, as Bobbity says, if he can get rid of the pain he could continue with bowls.

Blank 05 Nov 2006 9:20pm #11
offline Inside Out

Member since 04 Apr 2006

Member from Waimangaroa

Posts: 6

My husband is now 83 and after having played Indoor and Outdoor Bowls for about 20 years or so, he has recently had a fall and his ankles are very sore and painful with arthritis and he can't seem to be able to stand on his feet for long, so Bowling seems to be a thing of the past. He is rather a people person and needs company. We live in a rural area so there is not much scope for much for him to do. He needs something to do that doesn't require standing or walking. Are their any ideas to know what he could take up as a pastime and to met some new friends ?

6048-Browsing_Abroad_1_1 06 Nov 2006 3:13pm #12
offline bobbity

Member since 14 Sep 2006

Member from Glenfield

Posts: 5593

Is there a possibility that friends and/or acquaintances will gather for card playing or other games that everyone sits down at, inside out?
Also i have heard that some people are helped with arthritic pain by taking calcium supplements. there are also herbal supplements like 'devils claw' and' yucca' which help certain people.
if you can find a way to get rid of the pain he can continue with his beloved bowls.


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